Ukrainian Combat Jet Returned Without Missiles After MH17 Crash [Updated]

Previously, Russian Pravda released a satellite photo indicating a jet is following and firing on a Boeing 777..

satellite image of mh-17 shooting

Previous to that image we also have a high resolution photo of the cockpit peppered with holes that could only come from a high powered machine gun fired in mid-air…


These photos and a direct witness testimony should put enough pressure on the present government of Ukraine, and for the international community to look deeper into Ukraine’s culpability.

Investigators have evidence of Ukrainian warplane involvement in Malaysian MH17 crash — IC

December 24, 13:47 UTC+3

“The Investigative Committee will continue to gather and analyze all the data on this air crash,” spokesman for the Investigative Committee Vladimir Markin said

MOSCOW, December 24. /TASS/. Investigators have received the evidence of a Ukrainian warplane involvement in the crash of the Malaysian passenger Boeing (Flight MH17) over eastern Ukraine, spokesman for the Russian Investigative Committee (IC) Vladimir Markin told TASS on Wednesday.

“The investigators who did want to delay the interrogation yesterday evening, met a Ukrainian soldier who confirmed that he quit his military unit and crossed the border into Russia. The evidence of the soldier who is now a witness with a pseudonym for his own safety suggests that the passenger Boeing 777 plane of Flight MH17 was supposedly downed by a Sukhoi Su-25 fighter of the Ukrainian Air Force piloted by AF Captain Voloshin. The fighter took off from an airfield located in the area of the city of Dnipropetrovsk,” Markin said. The witness was doing his military service at the same airfield.

According to him, he “personally saw as Voloshin’s fighter ahead of the sortie was loaded with the R-60 type air-to-air missiles with which the Su-25 fighters were not normally loaded for their sorties.” “The witness said there was no need to equip the fighters with such missiles, as the people’s militia (in the south-east of Ukraine) are not armed with aircraft,” Markin said.

The witness also told the investigators about his last days of service in a Ukrainian Air Force unit. “Judging by his conduct, the facts he cited, the investigators had no doubt about the witness’ sincerity and his awareness of the events in the military unit,” Markin said.

The witness drew attention to the fact that when the fighter jet returned to the aerodrome it had no missiles and also then he clearly heard the words of pilot Voloshin who told a fellow soldier: “The plane turned out at a wrong time and at a wrong place.” “The facts and information cited by the witness without confusion convinced the investigators of the truth of his testimony and a polygraph test confirmed this. This testimony is very significant for the investigation, and most importantly, it matches the data the investigators got from other sources and confirms the fact of the Su-25 flight during the Boeing crash,” Markin said.

In particular, he said, a number of witnesses Ukrainian citizens who reside in the area of the Boeing 777 plane crash testified that “not long before the crash, they saw a warplane in the air in close proximity to the passenger airliner.”

“Thus, the witness testimony is not the only one, but a very important evidence that the Ukrainian armed forces were involved in the Boeing crash,” Markin said.

He added that “as the witness may be in danger, the investigation is considering the issue of offering him state protection under the witness protection program.”

“The Investigative Committee will continue to gather and analyze all the data on this air crash. And if representatives of the international commission investigating this air crash are really interested in establishing the truth and turn to us, we are ready to provide them with all the available materials,” said the SK spokesman.

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Ukrainian Combat Jet Returned Without Missiles After MH17 Crash: Reports

Published on: Dec 23, 2014 @ 20:31

A Ukrainian air force Su-25 combat jet took off from an airbase in eastern Dnipropetrovsk carrying air-to-air missiles and returned without them on the day the Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 crashed in eastern Ukraine, Komsomolskaya Pravda newspaper reports, citing an airbase employee.

MOSCOW, December 23 (Sputnik) – A Ukrainian air force Su-25 combat jet took off from an airbase in eastern Dnipropetrovsk carrying air-to-air missiles and returned without them on the day a Malaysia Airlines plane crashed in eastern Ukraine in July, Komsomolskaya Pravda newspaper reported, citing an airbase employee.The employee, who claims to be an eyewitness, said on July 17 that three Ukrainian combat jets took off, and that one of them, an Su-25, was carrying air-to-air missiles.

“After a while only one jet [of the three] returned, which had had those missiles… It returned without the missiles. The pilot was very frightened,” the man said. The employee stressed that only the returned Su-25 had been equipped with air-to-air missiles, and said he was sure it was not air-to-ground missiles.

The airbase worker said he remembered the pilot saying “the wrong plane” and “the plane was in the wrong place at the wrong time” after he returned from the flight.

The newspaper interviewee did not exclude the possibility that an Su-25 pilot could confuse a Boeing passenger airliner with a military jet.

“This could be. There was quite a long distance, he could have failed to see what exactly that plane was,” the man said.

The missiles carried by the Su-25 (NATO reporting name Frogfoot) are capable of targeting an object at a 3-5-kilometer (1-3 mile) distance, and to an altitude of 7,000 meters (23,000 feet), the source stressed.

“With jet’s raised nose, it is not a problem to fix a target and launch a missile. The flying range of this missile is over 10 kilometers,” according to the man.

He further said that the missile is capable of hitting a plane fuselage, whether directly or from a distance of 500 meters.

The density of the objects which hit the MH17 was very high, and these findings did not exclude the downing of the plane by a missile.

“There is such a missile. It explodes and its shrapnel punctures [the plane]. And after that, the missile warhead strikes it,” the man said.

The MH17 passenger Boeing of Malaysian Airlines crashed on July 17 in the Donetsk region, as it was flying from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur. All 298 people on board died.

The incident is being investigated by an international group headed by the Dutch Safety Board (DSB), its final report is expected to be released in 2015. According to the preliminary information of the DSB, the Boeing was hit by “a large number of high-energy objects” penetrating the aircraft from outside, but the source of the objects was not found.

Kiev has accused independence supporters in Ukraine’s southeast of shooting the plane down, but provided no evidence confirming the claim. The independence supporters say they do not have weapons which could down a plane flying at such a high altitude.

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2 thoughts on “Ukrainian Combat Jet Returned Without Missiles After MH17 Crash [Updated]”

  1. ‘Another MH17 Cover-Up: Hiding a Key Autopsy’ –

    ‘Russia to probe media reports that Ukraine military shot down MH17’ –

    The strange thing though about this international incident that killed 298 passengers and crewmembers is that with the ‘West’s leading-edge surveillance technology (eyes in the sky that can see the hair on a persons head), that the USA have never released the conclusive evidence from Satellite surveillance systems that the plane was shot down by the Russians or Ukrainian rebels. No-one has ever answered why this evidence is not out there and where then if it was, we would all know the truth, one way or the other. It is either a cover-up in the West or they are keeping the evidence secret which does not help their case either?

    But in the West there has always been massive cover-ups and Churchill was no different during and after WW2 when it came to the establishment and where one of them indirectly caused the deaths of hundreds of thousands of allied soldiers (USA, British, Australian, etc, etc, etc…etc) and millions of civilians throughout the Pacific campaign – ‘The ‘Establishment’ Makes Amends but where the ‘Establishment’ does not change its spots when it comes to its own ‘ –

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